Re: (PM) Downgrading from 3.9b27

Vernon Burke (vburke@skow.net)
Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:03:48 -0500

And have the same damn problem with someone else's equipment.
Once again, NOTHING you do or demand from the NAS provider
will fix broken drivers on the users modem. Modem manufacturers are
updating their drivers on a regular basis but instead of telling people
they need to FIX their machines, you're going to demand the NAS
provider accomodate every broken driver out there. That make a lot
of sense. Am I saying nothing is ever the fault of the NAS? Not at all.
That's why NAS firmware is being upgraded too. It's a process that has
to be done on BOTH sides.

Vern

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Lange" <microjl@palacenet.net>
To: "Vernon Burke" <vburke@skow.net>
Cc: <portmaster-users@livingston.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: (PM) Downgrading from 3.9b27

> So I should choose the MOST DIFFICULT path. Try and get 3000 Lusers to
> upgrade their modem code so Lucent can avoid dealing with the issues at
hand.
>
> This make sense to me. DEFINITELY NOT!
>
> I can just see the customers running away in droves, because I just
> upgraded to the latest Lucent beta "Kludge".
>
> NOT, I will just complain, let Lucent know I am not pleased, and keep
> looking at other RAS products with a gleam in my eye.
>
> JOhn :}
>
> At 12:21 PM 12/28/1999 -0500, you wrote:
> >Um, yes. If you want proper operation of any piece of equipment
> >to operate properly, you have to keep the firmware/drivers up to
> >date. I'm sure you must enjoy "fixing" your equipment to cure problems
> >with individual modems. There isn't any way under the sun you can fix
> >everyone's problems from your side without breaking someone else if
> >they are running 20 different versions of buggy drivers.
> >
> >As a side note, I'm STILL seeing new machines with LT Win Modems
> >being shipped with 5.04 drivers, which are missing important stuff like
> >Digital Impairment Learning and cause major problems. Upgrade them
> >to 5.66 and they're perfect. Most of the small machine builders just
don't
> >bother with anything expect what the distributor ships with the board
(which
> >is out of date 90+% of the time). I don't know what the big boys excuse
is.
> >I never send out one of my custom PC's without the absolute latest
drivers.
> >
> >Vern
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "John Lange" <microjl@palacenet.net>
> >To: "Vernon Burke" <vburke@skow.net>
> >Cc: <portmaster-users@livingston.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 11:26 AM
> >Subject: Re: (PM) Downgrading from 3.9b27
> >
> >
> >> Does it really make a difference if they worked fine with b22 and NOT
with
> >b27?
> >>
> >> JOhn :}
> >>
> >> At 11:23 AM 12/28/1999 -0500, you wrote:
> >> >So, were all of these trouble modems running the
> >> >up to date drivers?
> >> >
> >> >Vern
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >----- Original Message -----
> >> >From: "John Lange" <microjl@palacenet.net>
> >> >To: <portmaster-users@livingston.com>
> >> >Cc: <portmaster-modems@livingston.com>
> >> >Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 11:05 AM
> >> >Subject: (PM) Downgrading from 3.9b27
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> HI
> >> >>
> >> >> 3.9b27 was the worst thing that ever happened around here. My
support
> >> >> calls from Compaq Presario 56K DP, Rockwell HCF, LT Winmodems, USR
> >> >> Winmodems Increased by 100%
> >> >>
> >> >> I gave it 6 Days to prove itself. The Christmas weekend was a BEAR,
> >every
> >> >> computer (expert) on earth went out and bought a new e-monster or
some
> >> >> other piece of crap and now expect me to support it for free.
> >> >>
> >> >> I am now in the process or downgrading (twice) to 3.9b22. Lucent,
> >please
> >> >> let me know when you have the problem solved, would you?
> >> >>
> >> >> JOhn :}
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working
for
> >the
> >> >> Lord, not for men >Colossians 3:23 (NIV)
> >> >>
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> ----- Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the
> Lord, not for men >Colossians 3:23 (NIV)
>
> John C. Lange, Sr. PALACE dot NET, INC.
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