On Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 06:30:23PM -0500, Karl Denninger wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 04:08:35PM -0700, Robert Du Gaue wrote:
> > >
> > > > What is the v.90 code and where can I get a copy of it my users can't
> > > > log on with anything higher then 28.800 I really need to figure this
> > > > problem out fast I am using pm3's
> > >
> > > You are having other problems if your users cannot get above 28800 connect
> > > speeds...it is doubtful that the V.90 code will help you. Please note
> > > that it is in Open *Beta* (3.8b15).
> >
> > Josh,
> >
> > Can you give us some kind of time-line on either a supported release or at
> > least a more stable b16? All and well that it's referred to as 'Open
> > *Beta*' with an inference of 'use at your own risk', but it's getting
> > rather annoying watching customers cancel to go to an X2/V.90 ISP. I've
> > held off installing the 'Open *Beta*' to this point but it seems that it's
> > been out long enough that I'd have expected a b16 or something more
> > supported rather then the current state of this type of v.90 support. It's
> > available enough on the consumer side that I get quite a few calls of 'Do
> > you support v.90' only to have to tell them 'not yet, but soon' and pretty
> > much count of them finding an ISP that does. :(
>
> b15 is NOT stable.
>
> Some of the problems we have with it (and yes, we have reported them
> "officially", not that its changed much) include serious and severe problems
> with certain 28.8 modems being able to connect *AT ALL*.
>
> One of the affected modems, ironically, is non-upgraded 28.8 USR Sportsters!
> A good percentage of them (it is firmware revision related) cannot negotiate
> a connection to the b15 release under any circumstances in our environment.
>
> Rockwell 28.8 modems have similar problems.
>
> Some 33.6 firmware will connect, but train up at unsustainable speeds and
> NOT retrain downward - leading to connections which are "up" but return
> usable bit rates approximating 300 bps!
>
> Needless to say, we backed that one out.
>
> SLIP is also completely broken in that branch of code.
>
> There is a "quiet" internal release which post-dates b15 (v90b14) which
> also has similar problems and lasted less than 24 hours here in our testing.
>
> Why the V.90 code (which is actually quite good in the later internal
> release) totally screws 28.8 modems is beyond me, but it does, and its
> a serious issue if you have customers with older modems who have not
> upgraded.
>
> We are running CT1s with wink start on our analog plant.
>
> I consider the V.90 code on the PM3, at this point, to be unusable and
> am awaiting the next internal release or public beta before attempting
> further testing.
>
> Turn times also concern me at this point - we were, at one time, seeing
> new releases for testing about once a week or two. Now we're up to
> approximately 30 days between *TEST* releases, and its closing in on
> 60 days since b15 was posted publically.
>
> At least K56Flex is stable at this point, but the lack of operational
> V.90 support is upsetting.
>
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