> On Sat, 10 Jan 1998, Tim Flavin wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 10 Jan 1998, Jake Messinger wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 10 Jan 1998, MegaZone wrote:
> > >
> > > > >And now further how does it handle doing say 3 T1 multihomes?
> > > >
> > > > You could use both base ports and a WAN card and do it. Should work fine.
> > >
> > > At this point the PM 3 is no longer a term server, but a multi-wan router,
> > > similar to the 114 except that it can accept 3 t1's.
> > >
> >
> > Problem with the IRX line is no STAC :( I was thinking of moving my
> > frame-relay T1 to a PM3 for the STAC benefits, until I saw MZ say no STAC
> > on frame-relay, but for a CT1 to agrigate 56k customers on a PM3 would be
> > cool, as soon as STAC is in the ComOS for the OR-LS and OR-HS.
>
> You arent talking about STAC on a full T1 are you!?
That has crossed my mind, PM3 to PM3, but in this case I'm thinking CT1 on
my side into a PM3, then upto 24 56k leased line (DS0) customers. They
would use an OR-LS or OR-HS for the STAC benefits, and I would need the
STAC card for the PM3 of course. Cisco has nothing that could touch this
for the money, and I wouldn't touch Assend.
>
> > I really hope Livingston designs something new for leased lines with a
> > higher density, the PM3 is just not the answer, it is a term server, and
> > an excellent one at that. The IRX line has lived it's life, and I'm sure
> > there are uses for many still for the IRX line, but when it comes to the
> > many new ComOS features (BGP for one), Livingston really doesn't have an
> > answer to fill the needs.
>
> I think this is what the PM 4 is supposed to be.
>
I still view the PM4 as a big ass term server, but since we all know so
little about it, I hope your right.
> > > $5350 for 3 t1 ports
>
> > Roughly $5,700 for a Cisco 3620 with 64mb of non-Cisco RAM, 2 10mbit ether
> > and 4 WAN and IP only feature set. Or $7,700 for 1 10mbit and 6 WAN. yea,
> > I know, 10mbit would suck at full load, but show me 6 T1 customers going
> > full bore at the same time, if they are, there are bigger routers for the
> > job, or you can stick a 100mbit card in the 36xx.
> >
> > The 36xx is a hard router to beat for the price, these prices are from the
> > current TechData catalog, you should be able to do better from the likes
> > of Jake or Solunet.
>
> I am Jake. ;-)
>
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